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TODO: BB(5) arXiv released https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.12337
TODO: BB(5) arXiv released https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.12337


TODO: BB(3,3) month.
TODO: BB(3,3) month next month.


==In the News==
==In the News==
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** @mxdys [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1400456788955893840/1413542505772748810 decided two machines’ fates] from the [[TMBR: August 2025#Misc|50 Random Holdouts released in August]], making 8/50 machined solved as of this month.
** @mxdys [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1400456788955893840/1413542505772748810 decided two machines’ fates] from the [[TMBR: August 2025#Misc|50 Random Holdouts released in August]], making 8/50 machined solved as of this month.
** Andrew Ducharme [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1239205785913790465/1415859365944230001 found a non-halting TM], to which [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1239205785913790465/1415885515068280833 Peacemaker II replied with another machine] that turned out to be very similar, and non-halting as well. Later in his search Andrew [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1239205785913790465/1416229864280948817 found another non-halting TM.]
** Andrew Ducharme [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1239205785913790465/1415859365944230001 found a non-halting TM], to which [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1239205785913790465/1415885515068280833 Peacemaker II replied with another machine] that turned out to be very similar, and non-halting as well. Later in his search Andrew [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1239205785913790465/1416229864280948817 found another non-halting TM.]
** @mxdys shared a new way of grouping TMs by equivalence class, this reduced the number of holdout equivalence classes from 2467 to 1691 (31% reduction). https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1239205785913790465/1419290767767240734
** @mxdys [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1239205785913790465/1419290767767240734 shared a new way of grouping TMs by equivalence class,] this reduced the number of holdout equivalence classes from 2467 to 1691 (31% reduction).  
** @mxdys published a list of 3171 holdouts. The holdouts are in 1691 equivalence classes by halting status.
** @mxdys [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1239205785913790465/1419364305068888105 published a list] of 3171 holdouts. The holdouts are in 1691 equivalence classes by halting status.
* [[BB(7)|BB(7):]]
* [[BB(7)|BB(7):]]
** Andrew Ducharme has continued reducing [https://wiki.bbchallenge.org/wiki/BB(7)#Phase_2 the number of holdouts], from 59,727,905 to 28,189,617 (52.80% reduction).
** Andrew Ducharme has continued reducing [https://wiki.bbchallenge.org/wiki/BB(7)#Phase_2 the number of holdouts], from 59,727,905 to 28,189,617 (52.80% reduction).
** Terry Ligocki ran an additional 41 filters/parameters. This reduced [https://wiki.bbchallenge.org/wiki/BB(7)#Phase_2 the number of holdouts], from 28,189,617 to 23,314,388 TMs (17.29% reduction)
** Terry Ligocki ran an additional 41 filters/parameters. This reduced [https://wiki.bbchallenge.org/wiki/BB(7)#Phase_2 the number of holdouts], from 28,189,617 to 23,314,388 TMs (17.29% reduction)
** The overall reduction this month was 72.9%
** The overall reduction this month was 72.9% (note: This point can be discarded after the table is made for overall reduction for all domains)
* [[BB(2,6)|BB(2,6):]]  
* [[BB(2,6)|BB(2,6):]]  
** @Peacemaker II noticed some TMs missing from Andrew Ducharme reductions. It was decided to start back at the original 22,302,296 holdout TMs.
** @Peacemaker II noticed some TMs missing from Andrew Ducharme reductions. It was decided to start back at the original 22,302,296 holdout TMs. (TODO: Source)
** Andrew Ducharme ran several deciders/filters and reduced the 22,302,296 holdout TMs to 20,358,011 (8.72% reduction).
** Andrew Ducharme ran several deciders/filters and reduced the 22,302,296 holdout TMs to 20,358,011 (8.72% reduction). (TODO: Source)
** Terry Ligocki ran 50 variations of deciders/parameters using @mxdys' C++ code, main.cpp, reducing the [[BB(2,6)#Filtering|holdout count]] to 970,101 TMs (95.23% reduction)!
** Terry Ligocki ran 50 variations of deciders/parameters using @mxdys' C++ code, main.cpp, reducing the [[BB(2,6)#Filtering|holdout count]] to 970,101 TMs (95.23% reduction)!
** Andrew Ducharme ran some additional deciders reducing the holdout count to 873,469 TMs (9.96% reduction).
** Andrew Ducharme ran some additional deciders reducing the holdout count to 873,469 TMs (9.96% reduction). (TODO: Link to wiki page where you can find the specific filters)
*[[BB(4,3)|BB(4,3):]]
*[[BB(4,3)|BB(4,3):]]
** Terry Ligocki ran a set of deciders/parameters from @mxdys' code to reduce the number of holdouts which were at 460,916,384 TMs. Six passes have reduced the holdout count to 97,701,052 TMs (78.80% reduction).
** Terry Ligocki ran a set of deciders/parameters from @mxdys' code to reduce the number of holdouts which were at 460,916,384 TMs. Six passes have reduced the holdout count to 97,701,052 TMs (78.80% reduction). (TODO: Source)
*[[BB(3,4)|BB(3,4):]]
*[[BB(3,4)|BB(3,4):]]
**TODO: [[User:XnoobSpeakable|XnoobSpeakable]] and [[User:WarpedWartWars|Lúkos]] are working on the holdout list for BB(3,4), ~435M TMs, using @mxdys' deciders with various parameters.
**TODO: [[User:XnoobSpeakable|XnoobSpeakable]] and [[User:WarpedWartWars|Lúkos]] are working on the holdout list for BB(3,4), ~435M TMs, using @mxdys' deciders with various parameters.

Revision as of 12:24, 28 September 2025

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This Month in Beaver Research for September 2025.

TODO: BB(5) arXiv released https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.12337

TODO: BB(3,3) month next month.

In the News

Holdouts

  • BB(6):
  • BB(7):
    • Andrew Ducharme has continued reducing the number of holdouts, from 59,727,905 to 28,189,617 (52.80% reduction).
    • Terry Ligocki ran an additional 41 filters/parameters. This reduced the number of holdouts, from 28,189,617 to 23,314,388 TMs (17.29% reduction)
    • The overall reduction this month was 72.9% (note: This point can be discarded after the table is made for overall reduction for all domains)
  • BB(2,6):
    • @Peacemaker II noticed some TMs missing from Andrew Ducharme reductions. It was decided to start back at the original 22,302,296 holdout TMs. (TODO: Source)
    • Andrew Ducharme ran several deciders/filters and reduced the 22,302,296 holdout TMs to 20,358,011 (8.72% reduction). (TODO: Source)
    • Terry Ligocki ran 50 variations of deciders/parameters using @mxdys' C++ code, main.cpp, reducing the holdout count to 970,101 TMs (95.23% reduction)!
    • Andrew Ducharme ran some additional deciders reducing the holdout count to 873,469 TMs (9.96% reduction). (TODO: Link to wiki page where you can find the specific filters)
  • BB(4,3):
    • Terry Ligocki ran a set of deciders/parameters from @mxdys' code to reduce the number of holdouts which were at 460,916,384 TMs. Six passes have reduced the holdout count to 97,701,052 TMs (78.80% reduction). (TODO: Source)
  • BB(3,4):
    • TODO: XnoobSpeakable and Lúkos are working on the holdout list for BB(3,4), ~435M TMs, using @mxdys' deciders with various parameters.

BB Adjacent

  • John Tromp announced on Discord that a 350-bit function now reaches the limit of BMS, an improvement from the previous 404 bits.

TODO: phrasing. Discord source: https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1355653587824283678/1413637783045542038 and https://github.com/tromp/AIT/blob/master/fast_growing_and_conjectures/bms.lam

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