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==Top Halters==
==Top Halters==
{{Incomplete List}}
The 20 longest running known halting BB(2,5) TMs are:
Some of the longest running halting BB(2,5) TMs are:
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{| class="wikitable"
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!Standard format
!Standard format
!(approximate) runtime
!(approximate) runtime
!Discoverer
|-
|-
|{{TM|1RB3LA4RB0RB2LA_1LB2LA3LA1RA1RZ|halt}}
|{{TM|1RB3LA4RB0RB2LA_1LB2LA3LA1RA1RZ|halt}}
|<math>10 \uparrow\uparrow 4.8142742</math>
|<math>10 \uparrow\uparrow 4.8142742</math>
|Daniel Yuan
|-
|-
|{{TM|1RB2LB4LB3LA1RZ_1LA3RA3LB0LB0RA|halt}}
|{{TM|1RB2LB4LB3LA1RZ_1LA3RA3LB0LB0RA|halt}}
|<math>> 10^{38\,033}</math>
|<math>>10^{38\,033}</math>
|Pavel Kropitz
|-
|{{TM|1RB2LA1RA2LB2LA_0LA2RB3RB4RA1RZ|halt}}
|<math>>1.9 \times 10^{704}</math>
|Terry and Shawn Ligocki
|-
|{{TM|1RB2LA4RA2LB2LA_0LA2RB3RB1RA1RZ|halt}}
|<math>>1.6 \times 10^{211}</math>
|Terry and Shawn Ligocki
|-
|{{TM|1RB2LA4RA2LB2LA_0LA2RB3RB4RA1RZ|halt}}
|<math>>1.6 \times 10^{211}</math>
|Terry and Shawn Ligocki
|-
|{{TM|1RB2LA4RA1LB2LA_0LA2RB3RB2RA1RZ|halt}}
|<math>>5.2 \times 10^{61}</math>
|Terry and Shawn Ligocki
|-
|{{TM|1RB0RB4RA2LB2LA_2LA1LB3RB4RA1RZ|halt}}
|<math>>7 \times 10^{21}</math>
|Terry and Shawn Ligocki
|-
|{{TM|1RB1RZ4LA4LB2RA_2LB2RB3RB2RA0RB|halt}}
|<math>>9 \times 10^{16}</math>
|Terry and Shawn Ligocki
|-
|{{TM|1RB3LA1LA0LB1RA_2LA4LB4LA1RA1RZ|halt}}
|<math>>3.77 \times 10^{16}</math>
|Terry and Shawn Ligocki
|-
|{{TM|1RB2RA1LA3LA2RA_2LA3RB4LA1LB1RZ|halt}}
|<math>>9 \times 10^{15}</math>
|Terry and Shawn Ligocki
|-
|{{TM|1RB2RA1LA1LB3LB_2LA3RB1RZ4RA1LA|halt}}
|417,310,842,648,366
|Terry and Shawn Ligocki
|-
|{{TM|1RB3LA1LA4LA1RA_2LB2RA1RZ0RA0RB|halt}}
|26,375,397,569,930
|Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
|-
|{{TM|1RB3LB4LB4LA2RA_2LA1RZ3RB4RA3RB|halt}}
|14,103,258,269,249
|Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
|-
|{{TM|1RB3RA4LB2RA3LA_2LA1RZ4RB4RB2LB|halt}}
|3,793,261,759,791
|Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
|-
|{{TM|1RB3RA1LA1LB3LB_2LA4LB3RA2RB1RZ|halt}}
|924,180,005,181
|Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
|-
|{{TM|1RB3LB1RZ1LA1LA_2LA3RB4LB4LB3RA|halt}}
|912,594,733,606
|Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
|-
|{{TM|1RB2RB3LA2RA3RA_2LB2LA3LA4RB1RZ|halt}}
|469,121,946,086
|Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
|-
|{{TM|1RB3RB3RB1LA3LB_2LA3RA4LB2RA1RZ|halt}}
|233,431,192,481
|Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
|-
|{{TM|1RB3LA1LB1RA3RA_2LB3LA3RA4RB1RZ|halt}}
|8,619,024,596
|Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
|-
|{{TM|1RB2RB3RB4LA3RA_0LA4RB1RZ0RB1LB|halt}}
|7,543,673,517
|Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
|}
|}


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=== Unsolved ===
=== Unsolved ===


* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA3RA---0RA1LA|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis - [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1436149296004071615 Notes by mxdys]
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA3RB---0RA1LA|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis
* {{TM|1RB3LA1LA4LA2RA_2LB2RA---0RA0RB|undecided}}. - [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1436151969986379868 Notes by mxdys]
* {{TM|1RB---4LB0LA4RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0RB|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB---4LB0LA4RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0RB|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB3LA1LA4LA2RA_2LB2RA---0RA0RB|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB4RA1LA4RB2LA_2LB3LA1RB2RA---|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB4RA1LA4RB2LA_2LB3LA1RB2RA---|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB---3RA2LA2RB_2LB3LA4LB4RA0RA|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB---3RA2LA2RB_2LB3LA4LB4RA0RA|undecided}}.
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* {{TM|1RB2RA4LA1RB4RB_1LB2LA3RA---0LB|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB2RA4LA1RB4RB_1LB2LA3RA---0LB|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB3RB1LA2LA3RA_1LB2RA4RB0LA---|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB3RB1LA2LA3RA_1LB2RA4RB0LA---|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB3LA3LB0RB0LA_2LA4RB1LB1RA---|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB3LA1LA2RB2RA_2LA4RA3LB1RA---|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB3LA1LA2RB2RA_2LA4RA3LB1RA---|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB3RB---4RA2RA_2LA2RA3LB4LB1LB|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB3RB---4RA2RA_2LA2RA3LB4LB1LB|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LA3LB_1LA3LB1RA4RA---|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB4LB1RA_1LA3RA1RA---0LA|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB4LB0LA_1LA3LA1RA4RA---|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB4LB0LA_1LA3LA1RA4RA---|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB---3LB4RB0LA_2LB3LA3RB4RA0RA|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB---3LB4RB0LA_2LB3LA3RB4RA0RA|undecided}}.
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA3RA---0RA1LA|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LA3LB_1LA3LB1RA4RA---|undecided}}. Shift overflow mixed-digits counter - [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1440877223744770259/1440877223744770259 Analysis by hipparcos]
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA3RB---0RA1LA|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB4LB1RA_1LA3RA1RA---0LA|undecided}}. Shift overflow mixed-digits counter - [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1436181033992327333/1436181033992327333 Analysis by hipparcos] + [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1436151075450130443 mxdys's notes]
* {{TM|1RB2RB---0LB3LA_2LA2LB3RB4RB1LB|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis
* {{TM|1RB3LB---4LA1RB_2LA4LA4LB3RB1RA|undecided}}. Potential Cryptid - [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1375584513777995957 Analysis by @mxdys]
* {{TM|1RB3LB---4LA1RB_2LA4LA4LB3RB1RA|undecided}}. Potential Cryptid - [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1375584513777995957 Analysis by @mxdys]
* {{TM|1RB3LA1LA1RA3RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB|undecided}}. Potential Cryptid
* {{TM|1RB3LA1LA1RA3RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB|undecided}}. Potential Cryptid
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* {{TM|1RB2RA3LB4LA---_2LA0RB1LA2RB0RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1348878717870673981 Analysis by @dyuan01 and @Legion]
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LB4LA---_2LA0RB1LA2RB0RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1348878717870673981 Analysis by @dyuan01 and @Legion]
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA---2LB_2LA4RA4RB0RB0LA|undecided}}. Spaghetti, [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1344221797020602398/1344221797020602398 analysis by @nerdyjoe]
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA---2LB_2LA4RA4RB0RB0LA|undecided}}. Spaghetti, [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1344221797020602398/1344221797020602398 analysis by @nerdyjoe]
* {{TM|1RB3LA3LB0RB0LA_2LA4RB1LB1RA---|undecided}}. Permutation of "Spaghetti TM", [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1344221797020602398 analysis by nerdyjoe]
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA---3LB1RA3RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1353983911222312970/1355112650690003028 Bouncer + chaotic counter]
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA---3LB1RA3RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1353983911222312970/1355112650690003028 Bouncer + chaotic counter]
* {{TM|1RB3LA3LA0RB2LB_2LA4LA4RA2RA---|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1376383949575557161 Analysis by @mxdys]
* {{TM|1RB3LA3LA0RB2LB_2LA4LA4RA2RA---|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1376383949575557161 Analysis by @mxdys]
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* {{TM|1RB3LA1RA4LA2RA_2LA---1LA0RA3RB|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1378560417235734558 More analysis by mxdys]
* {{TM|1RB3LA1RA4LA2RA_2LA---1LA0RA3RB|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1378560417235734558 More analysis by mxdys]
* {{TM|1RB2RB4LA2RA1LA_2LA4RA3LA---3RA|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1353983911222312970/1353987502062702622 Probviously nonhalting]
* {{TM|1RB2RB4LA2RA1LA_2LA4RA3LA---3RA|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1353983911222312970/1353987502062702622 Probviously nonhalting]
* {{TM|1RB2RB---0LB3LA_2LA2LB3RB4RB1LB|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1378560417235734558 Analysis of permutation by mxdys]
* {{TM|1RB2LA4RA1LA3LA_0LA2RB3RB2LB---|undecided}}. 1D CA-like. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1354107790330691655 Analysis by @dyuan and @mxdys]
* {{TM|1RB2LA4RA1LA3LA_0LA2RB3RB2LB---|undecided}}. 1D CA-like. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1354107790330691655 Analysis by @dyuan and @mxdys]
* {{TM|1RB2LA4RA1LA3LA_0LA3RB3LB2RB---|undecided}}. 1D CA-like
* {{TM|1RB2LA4RA1LA3LA_0LA3RB3LB2RB---|undecided}}. 1D CA-like

Latest revision as of 13:55, 27 December 2025

The 2-state, 5-symbol Busy Beaver problem, BB(2,5), is unsolved. With the discovery of the Cryptid machine Hydra in April 2024, we now know that we must solve a Collatz-like problem in order to solve BB(2,5) and thus BB(2,5) is Hard.

The current BB(2,5) champion 1RB3LA4RB0RB2LA_1LB2LA3LA1RA1RZ (bbch) was discovered by Daniel Yuan in June 2024, proving the lower bounds:

S(2,5)>Σ(2,5)>1010103314360>104

Cryptids

Known Cryptids:

Potential Cryptids:

Top Halters

The 20 longest running known halting BB(2,5) TMs are:

Standard format (approximate) runtime Discoverer
1RB3LA4RB0RB2LA_1LB2LA3LA1RA1RZ (bbch) 104.8142742 Daniel Yuan
1RB2LB4LB3LA1RZ_1LA3RA3LB0LB0RA (bbch) >1038033 Pavel Kropitz
1RB2LA1RA2LB2LA_0LA2RB3RB4RA1RZ (bbch) >1.9×10704 Terry and Shawn Ligocki
1RB2LA4RA2LB2LA_0LA2RB3RB1RA1RZ (bbch) >1.6×10211 Terry and Shawn Ligocki
1RB2LA4RA2LB2LA_0LA2RB3RB4RA1RZ (bbch) >1.6×10211 Terry and Shawn Ligocki
1RB2LA4RA1LB2LA_0LA2RB3RB2RA1RZ (bbch) >5.2×1061 Terry and Shawn Ligocki
1RB0RB4RA2LB2LA_2LA1LB3RB4RA1RZ (bbch) >7×1021 Terry and Shawn Ligocki
1RB1RZ4LA4LB2RA_2LB2RB3RB2RA0RB (bbch) >9×1016 Terry and Shawn Ligocki
1RB3LA1LA0LB1RA_2LA4LB4LA1RA1RZ (bbch) >3.77×1016 Terry and Shawn Ligocki
1RB2RA1LA3LA2RA_2LA3RB4LA1LB1RZ (bbch) >9×1015 Terry and Shawn Ligocki
1RB2RA1LA1LB3LB_2LA3RB1RZ4RA1LA (bbch) 417,310,842,648,366 Terry and Shawn Ligocki
1RB3LA1LA4LA1RA_2LB2RA1RZ0RA0RB (bbch) 26,375,397,569,930 Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
1RB3LB4LB4LA2RA_2LA1RZ3RB4RA3RB (bbch) 14,103,258,269,249 Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
1RB3RA4LB2RA3LA_2LA1RZ4RB4RB2LB (bbch) 3,793,261,759,791 Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
1RB3RA1LA1LB3LB_2LA4LB3RA2RB1RZ (bbch) 924,180,005,181 Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
1RB3LB1RZ1LA1LA_2LA3RB4LB4LB3RA (bbch) 912,594,733,606 Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
1RB2RB3LA2RA3RA_2LB2LA3LA4RB1RZ (bbch) 469,121,946,086 Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
1RB3RB3RB1LA3LB_2LA3RA4LB2RA1RZ (bbch) 233,431,192,481 Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
1RB3LA1LB1RA3RA_2LB3LA3RA4RB1RZ (bbch) 8,619,024,596 Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian
1RB2RB3RB4LA3RA_0LA4RB1RZ0RB1LB (bbch) 7,543,673,517 Grégory Lafitte and Christophe Papazian

Certified progress

In April 2024, Shawn Ligocki publicly released a list of 23,411 undecided BB(2,5) machines. Justin Blanchard then made substantial progress over the course of the next month, reducing the list to 499 holdouts by late May 2024. In June 2024, @mxdys cut down the list to 273 using halting and inductive deciders, and again to 217 using CTL. In February 2025, @mxdys ran a decider pipeline in Rocq that resulted in only 173 holdouts. Since then, additional machines have been proven in Rocq using both deciders and individual proofs.

On 29 Mar 2025, @mxdys published a list of 83 holdouts that withstood state-of-the-art Rocq deciders.

Over the course of 5 months, @mxdys added 8 machines to Rocq12345, lowering the certified holdout count to 75. There are 11 informal arguments, lowering the informal holdout count to 64.

Holdouts

This section is based on the list of 83 holdouts published by @mxdys, and includes further progress as of 25 October 2025.

Cryptids

Unsolved

The 15 grandchildren of 1RB2LA0RB1LB_1LA3RA1RA--- (bbch)

  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB0LB_1LA3RA1RA4RA--- (bbch).
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4RB0LB (bbch).

which includes the family 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB---. See this thread for more details.

  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2RB (bbch). Simulated for 9*101167 steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2LB (bbch). Simulated for 1.3*101094 steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1RB (bbch). Simulated for 9.8*101226 steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1LB (bbch). Simulated for 3*101140 steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0LB (bbch). Simulated for 2.6*10889 steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0RB (bbch).
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB3RA (bbch).
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2RA (bbch).
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2LA (bbch).
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1RA (bbch).
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1LA (bbch).
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0RA (bbch).
  • 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0LA (bbch).

Solved with moderate rigor

Formally proven