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* {{TM|1RB1RF_1RC0RA_1LD1RC_1LE0LE_0RA0LD_0RB---}}: [[Beaver Math Olympiad#7. 1RB1RF 1RC0RA 1LD1RC 1LE0LE 0RA0LD 0RB--- (bbch)|BMO7]] | * {{TM|1RB1RF_1RC0RA_1LD1RC_1LE0LE_0RA0LD_0RB---}}: [[Beaver Math Olympiad#7. 1RB1RF 1RC0RA 1LD1RC 1LE0LE 0RA0LD 0RB--- (bbch)|BMO7]] ([https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1421782442213376000/1421782442213376000 Discord thread]) | ||
[[Category:This Month in Beaver Research|2025-09]] | [[Category:This Month in Beaver Research|2025-09]] |
Revision as of 19:34, 30 September 2025
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This Month in Beaver Research for September 2025.
The biggest news this month is that we publicly posted a preprint of our BB(5) paper: "Determination of the fifth Busy Beaver value" on arXiv on 15 Sep 2025. This represents over a year of work writing up the proof that BB(5) = 47,176,870.
This month saw continued public attention with Ben Brubaker's BB(6) Quanta article reprinted in Wired. There were massive holdout reductions across 4 Busy Beaver domains with BB(2,6) seeing over a 96% reduction in holdouts! A new theoretical framework was introduced generalizing BMO1 and was proven to be Turing complete. And the Bug Game was introduced and explored for small values.
October 2025 will be BB(3,3) month. TODO: Add blurb.
In the News
- 14 Sep 2025. Ben Brubaker. Wired. The Quest to Find the Longest-Running Simple Computer Program. (Reprint of Quanta article from last month).
- 17 Sep 2025. Hacker News. Determination of the fifth Busy Beaver value.
- 18 Sep 2025. Tuomas Kangasniemi. Tekniikkatalous. Iso matematiikan ongelma ratkesi 63 v jälkeen (Finnish) (English: A big math problem solved after 63 years).
Blog Posts
- 12 Sep 2025. Katelyn Doucette. Bugs, Mazes, and the Unreasonably Effective Brady's Algorithm.
- 30 Sep 2025. Nick Drozd. The Shape of a Turing Machine.
Holdouts
This month saw huge reductions to holdout lists in many domains. In BB(6), this was mainly due to mxdys demonstrating the equivalence of many TMs. For the other domains it seems to be mainly due to applying mxdys's main.exe
and the Ligockis' Enumerate.py
and lr_enum_continue
decider pipelines to these domains.
Domain | New Holdout Count | Previous Holdout Count | Holdout Reduction | % Reduction |
---|---|---|---|---|
BB(6) | 1,691 | 2,592 | 901 | 34.8% |
BB(7) | 22,801,601 | 59,727,905 | 36,446,066 | 61.8% |
BB(2,6) | 873,469 | 22,302,296 | 21,428,827 | 96.1% |
BB(4,3) | 50,835,926 | 460,916,384 | 410,080,458 | 89.0% |
- BB(6):
- Equivalence Classes:
- @mxdys shared a new way of grouping TMs by equivalence class, this reduced the number of holdout equivalence classes from 2467 to 1691 (31% reduction).
- There is some debate about what precisely defines a holdout. Should it be the full list of TNF TMs that are undecided? Or should it be a list of one TM per equivalence class or in other words, a list of TMs such that solving them will also solve all remaining TMs (due to behavioral equivalence). In practice, most holdouts list involve some amount of trimming for equivalence classes whether that is by using TNF-1RB or Marxen-style pruning. For consistency with previous holdouts lists, we list the number of equivalence classes as the holdout count above.
- @mxdys published a list of 3171 total individual holdout TMs across the 1691 equivalence classes.
- Andrew Ducharme and @mxdys both found a family of 10 halting TMs independently, all halting in around steps.
- @mxdys decided two machines’ fates from the 50 Random Holdouts released in August, making 8/50 machined solved as of this month.
- Andrew Ducharme (with help from Peacemaker II) found 3 additional halting TMs: 1 2 3.
- @mxdys solved 3 machines after Peacemaker II shared a holdout list where machine permutations are grouped, when @-d noticed that even the first group in the holdouts list is interesting.
- Peacemaker II wrote code for 2 machines, which XnoobSpeakable then ran, and both were found to be halters. @mxdys later verified this result formally.
- Equivalence Classes:
- BB(7):
- Andrew Ducharme has continued reducing the number of holdouts, from 59,727,905 to 28,189,617 (52.80% reduction).
- Terry Ligocki ran an additional 24 filters/parameters. This reduced the number of holdouts, from 28,189,617 to 23,314,388 TMs (17.29% reduction)
- Andrew Ducharme, starting Stage 4 of Phase 2 ran two additional filters, reducing the number of holdouts, from 23,314,388 to 22,801,601 TMs (2.2% reduction)
- Racheline decided a machine to be halting manually.
- BB(2,6):
- An error was noticed in the BB(2,6) holdout reduction reported last month. It was decided to start back at the original 22,302,296 holdout TMs.
- Andrew Ducharme ran
lr_enum_continue
and reduced the 22,302,296 holdout TMs to 20,358,011 (8.72% reduction). - Terry Ligocki ran 50 variations of deciders/parameters using @mxdys' C++ code,
main.exe
, reducing the holdout count to 970,101 TMs (95.23% reduction)! - Andrew Ducharme ran
Enumerate.py
reducing the holdout count to 873,469 TMs (9.96% reduction). - Peacemaker II found a new second place champion, halting at around steps.
- BB(4,3):
- Terry Ligocki ran @mxdys'
main.exe
and reduced holdouts from 460,916,384 to 97,701,052 TMs (78.80% reduction). - Andrew Ducharme reduced the holdout list to 50,835,926 using
Enumerate.py
.
- Terry Ligocki ran @mxdys'
- BB(3,4):
- XnoobSpeakable and Lúkos are working on the holdout list for BB(3,4), ~435M TMs, using @mxdys' deciders with various parameters.
Theory
Linear-Inequality Affine Transformation Automata (LIATA) were introduced as a generalization of the BMO1 rules:
- @Bard proved that 3 dimension LIATA are Turing complete: https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1239205785913790465/1420457986564030641
- @star proved that 2 dimension LIATA are Turing complete: https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1239205785913790465/1421271424588451915
- BMO1 is a 2d-LIATA so this provides some sense for the difficulty of the problem.
- This is analogous to how Conway proved that generalized collatz maps are Turing complete which suggests the difficulty with solving Collatz-like problems.
- But, like Conway's proof, it does not say anything concrete about any specific 2d-LIATA problem.
BB Adjacent
- @savask shared the Bug Game (and fast-growing function)
- Optimal square mazes have been discovered up to Bug(7,7) = 218 by Katelyn Doucette using TNF-style search. https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1362008236118511758/1416593147210895491
- Daniel Yuan found some long running mazes using a greedy algorithm including Bug(19,29) ≥ 11,160,428. [1]
- Daniel Yuan proved that . [2], [3] and [4]
- John Tromp proved (announcement on Discord, Code). This is an improvement over the previous result requiring 404 bits. (TODO: clarify what BMS is and if this function notation is standard).
Interesting TMs
1RB1RF_1RC0RA_1LD1RC_1LE0LE_0RA0LD_0RB---
(bbch): BMO7 (Discord thread)