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Latest revision as of 10:11, 18 September 2026
The 2-state, 5-symbol Busy Beaver problem, BB(2,5), is unsolved. With the discovery of the Cryptid machine Hydra in April 2024, we now know that we must solve a Collatz-like problem in order to solve BB(2,5) and thus BB(2,5) is Hard.
The current BB(2,5) champion 1RB3LA4RB0RB2LA_1LB2LA3LA1RA1RZ (bbch) was discovered by Daniel Yuan in June 2024, proving the lower bounds:
Cryptids
Known Cryptids:
1RB3RB---3LA1RA_2LA3RA4LB0LB0LA(bbch), known as Hydra1RB3RB---3LA1RA_2LA3RA4LB0LB1LB(bbch), known as the Bonus Cryptid
Potential Cryptids:
1RB---0RB0LA2RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0LB(bbch). Shift overflow counter1RB3LA1LA1RA3RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB(bbch).1RB3LA1LA1RA1RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB(bbch).1RB3LB---4LA1RB_2LA4LA4LB3RB1RA(bbch). Analysis by @mxdys1RB2RA3LB---2LB_2LA0LA4RB0RB1LA(bbch). Probviously halting. Estimated 25 to 50% chance of beating champion.
Top Halters
The 20 longest running known halting BB(2,5) TMs are:
| Standard format | (approximate) runtime | Discoverer |
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1RB3LA4RB0RB2LA_1LB2LA3LA1RA1RZ (bbch)
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Daniel Yuan | |
1RB2LB4LB3LA1RZ_1LA3RA3LB0LB0RA (bbch)
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Pavel Kropitz | |
1RB2RA3LA4RB---_2LA3RB3RA1LB3LB (bbch)
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Daniel Yuan [1] | |
1RB2LA1RA2LB2LA_0LA2RB3RB4RA1RZ (bbch)
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Terry and Shawn Ligocki | |
1RB2LA4RA2LB2LA_0LA2RB3RB1RA1RZ (bbch)
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Terry and Shawn Ligocki | |
1RB2LA4RA2LB2LA_0LA2RB3RB4RA1RZ (bbch)
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Terry and Shawn Ligocki | |
1RB2LA4RA1LB2LA_0LA2RB3RB2RA1RZ (bbch)
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Terry and Shawn Ligocki | |
1RB0RB4RA2LB2LA_2LA1LB3RB4RA1RZ (bbch)
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Terry and Shawn Ligocki | |
1RB3LA4LA1LA2RA_2LA4RB---0RA0LA (bbch)
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> 6 X 1021 (halting nb of steps yet to be precised) | LegionMammal978 |
1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA---1LA1RA3RA (bbch)
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prurq and LegionMammal978 | |
1RB3LA4LA2RB1LA_2LA4RB---3RA3LA (bbch)
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prurq and LegionMammal978 | |
1RB1RZ4LA4LB2RA_2LB2RB3RB2RA0RB (bbch)
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Terry and Shawn Ligocki | |
1RB3LA1LA0LB1RA_2LA4LB4LA1RA1RZ (bbch)
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Terry and Shawn Ligocki | |
1RB2RA1LA3LA2RA_2LA3RB4LA1LB1RZ (bbch)
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Terry and Shawn Ligocki | |
1RB2LB4RB2RB---_1LA3RA4RA3LB1LB (bbch)
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mxdys | |
1RB2RB4LB2LB---_2LA0LA3RB0LA2RA (bbch)
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mxdys | |
1RB0RA3LB1LB---_2LA3RB4RB3RA0LA (bbch)
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mxdys | |
1RB2LB2RA4LB1RA_1LA3RA3LA4LA--- (bbch)
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mxdys | |
1RB3LA---4RB0LB_2LA3LB4LA1RB3RA (bbch)
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mxdys | |
1RB2RA1LA1LB3LB_2LA3RB1RZ4RA1LA (bbch)
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417,310,842,648,366 | Terry and Shawn Ligocki |
Certified progress
In April 2024, Shawn Ligocki publicly released a list of 23,411 undecided BB(2,5) machines. Justin Blanchard then made substantial progress over the course of the next month, reducing the list to 499 holdouts by late May 2024. In June 2024, @mxdys cut down the list to 273 using halting and inductive deciders, and again to 217 using CTL. In February 2025, @mxdys ran a decider pipeline in Rocq that resulted in only 173 holdouts. Since then, additional machines have been proven in Rocq using both deciders and individual proofs.
On 29 Mar 2025, @mxdys published a list of 83 holdouts that withstood state-of-the-art Rocq deciders. Over the course of 5 months, @mxdys added 8 machines to Rocq[1][2][3][4][5], lowering the certified holdout count to 75.
Using existing C++ deciders, Andrew Ducharme found two machines non-halting on 29 Jan 2026 and 11 Feb 2026. On 11 March 2026, Peacemaker II solved a permutation of one of the TMs Andrew solved by tweaking some of the decider parameters. @mxdys verified each result the days they were announced. Also on 11 Feb 2026, @mxdys proved in Rocq another TM as a translated cycler. This combined progress reduced the formal holdout count to 71.
On 16 March 2026, mxdys formalised a proof from October 2024 and a proof from October 2025, thus reducing the holdout count to 69.[6][7]
On 1 April 2026, Discord user mammillaria shared a Lean formalisation of the BMO 3 problem and its solution, which he created using Aristotle AI. Then mxdys formalised the result in Rocq using LLMs, then extended it the next day to solve a BMO 3 variant, reducing the holdout count to 66.
On 30 May 2026, Andrew Ducharme showed 1RB2LB---4LB0RB_1LA3RB4RB4RA1LB (bbch) nonhalting via FAR. mxdys verified the FAR solution in Rocq on 1 June.
On 8 September 2026, mxdys used the newest Rocq deciders to solve five holdouts, leaving only 60 formal holdouts.
Holdouts
This section is based on the list of 83 holdouts published by @mxdys, and includes further progress as of 8 September 2026. All TMs with known informal arguments for halting or non-halting, at that point, were formally decided.
Cryptids
1RB3RB---3LA1RA_2LA3RA4LB0LB0LA(bbch). Hydra1RB3RB---3LA1RA_2LA3RA4LB0LB1LB(bbch). Bonus Cryptid
Unsolved
1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA3RA---0RA1LA(bbch). Chaotic via long. analysis - Notes by mxdys1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA3RB---0RA1LA(bbch). Chaotic via long. analysis1RB---3RA2LA2RB_2LB3LA4LB4RA0RA(bbch). Does not halt in 1.25e131RB3RB1LA2LA3RA_1LB2RA4RB0LA---(bbch). Does not halt in 2e13 steps.1RB2RA4LA1RB4RB_1LB2LA3RA---0LB(bbch). Does not halt in 5e13 steps.1RB---4LB0LA4RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0RB(bbch).1RB4RA1LA4RB2LA_2LB3LA1RB2RA---(bbch).1RB2RB3LA4LA1LA_2LB3RA---4RA1RB(bbch).1RB3RB3LA4LA2RB_2LB3RA---1RA1LA(bbch).1RB---3LB4RB0LA_2LB3LA3RB4RA0RA(bbch).1RB3RB---4RA2RA_2LA2RA3LB4LB1LB(bbch). Longitudinal Analysis by dyuan.1RB3LA1LA2RB2RA_2LA4RA3LB1RA---(bbch). Longitudinal Analysis by dyuan.1RB4RB4RA1LA3LA_1LB2LA3RB2RB---(bbch). Longitudinal Analysis by dyuan.1RB2LA0RB4LB0LA_1LA3LA1RA4RA---(bbch). Does not halt in 1e13 steps. Longitudinal Analysis by dyuan.1RB2LA0RB1LA3LB_1LA3LB1RA4RA---(bbch). Shift overflow mixed-digits counter - Analysis by hipparcos1RB2LA0RB4LB1RA_1LA3RA1RA---0LA(bbch). Shift overflow mixed-digits counter - Analysis by hipparcos + mxdys's notes1RB3LB---4LA1RB_2LA4LA4LB3RB1RA(bbch). Potential Cryptid - Analysis by @mxdys1RB3LA1LA1RA3RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB(bbch). Potential Cryptid1RB3LA1LA1RA1RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB(bbch). Potential Cryptid1RB---0RB0LA2RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0LB(bbch). Potential Cryptid - Shift overflow counter1RB2RA3LB---2LB_2LA0LA4RB0RB1LA(bbch). Probviously halting potential cryptid. Estimated 25 to 50% chance of beating current champion1RB3LA1LA2RB2LB_1LB2RA4RA0RB---(bbch). Block analysis by @dyuan by "impurity score"1RB---4LB1RA4RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0RB(bbch). Analysis by Andrew Ducharme and @mxdys1RB---4RB2RB4LA_2LB3LA3LB0RA0RB(bbch). Bouncer + chaotic counter1RB2LA0RB0LB3LB_2LA4RB3RA0RA---(bbch). Analysis by Peacemaker II1RB2RA3LB4LA---_2LA0RB1LA2RB0RA(bbch). Analysis by @dyuan01 and @Legion1RB2RA3LA---2LB_2LA4RA4RB0RB0LA(bbch). Spaghetti, analysis by @nerdyjoe, does not halt in 4e13.1RB3LA3LB0RB0LA_2LA4RB1LB1RA---(bbch). Permutation of "Spaghetti TM", analysis by nerdyjoe1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA---3LB1RA3RA(bbch). Bouncer + chaotic counter1RB3LA3LA0RB2LB_2LA4LA4RA2RA---(bbch). Analysis by @mxdys1RB2LB3LA0RA1LB_2LA4RA3RB3LA---(bbch). Analysis by @nerdyjoe1RB3LB0RB---2LB_2LA3RA4RB2RB0LA(bbch). Analysis by @mxdys1RB3LB4LA0LB---_2LA0LA1RB0RA3RA(bbch). Analysis by Peacemaker II1RB3RB1LB2RA---_2LA2RB1LA4LB0RA(bbch). Analysis by Legion and @dyuan1RB2LA0RB---4LA_1LA3LA1RA4RA1LB(bbch). Analysis by @racheline1RB4LA1RA1RB1LA_2LB3LA---4RA2RB(bbch). Basic long. analysis by @dyuan1RB3RA3RB4LA1LA_1LB2LA1LA---1RB(bbch). Long. analysis by @dyuan suggests chaotic, potentially halt1RB2LA4LA1RA1LA_2LB3RB4RB---2RA(bbch). Long. analysis rules by @Legion, ran to cell 155 without halting1RB2RB4LA2RA1LA_2LA4RA3LA---3RA(bbch). Chaotic via long. analysis. Probviously nonhalting1RB2LA4RA1LA3LA_0LA2RB3RB2LB---(bbch). 1D CA-like. Analysis by @dyuan and @mxdys1RB2LA4RA1LA3LA_0LA3RB3LB2RB---(bbch). 1D CA-like1RB2LA1LA4RA2LA_0LA3RB3LB2RB---(bbch). 1D CA-like1RB2LA3LA4RA1LA_0LA3LB3RB1RB---(bbch). 1D CA-like1RB2LA3LB4LB---_0LA4LB3RA4LA0RB(bbch). Fractal?
14 grandchildren of 1RB2LA0RB1LB_1LA3RA1RA--- (bbch)
1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4RB0LB(bbch).
and the family 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB---. See this thread for more details.
1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2RB(bbch). Simulated for steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2LB(bbch). Simulated for steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1RB(bbch). Simulated for steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1LB(bbch). Simulated for steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0LB(bbch). Simulated for steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0RB(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB3RA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2RA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2LA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1RA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1LA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0RA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0LA(bbch).
Solved with moderate rigor
None
Formally proven
1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA---1LA1RA3RA(bbch). Longitudinal analysis by @Legion implies halting, simulated until halt by prurq using Quick_Sim. Rocq-decided by @mxdys.1RB3LA4LA1LA2RA_2LA4RB---0RA0LA(bbch). Longitudinal analysis by @Legion implies halting. Rocq-decided by @mxdys.1RB3LA4LA2RB1LA_2LA4RB---3RA3LA(bbch). Longitudinal analysis by @Legion implies halting, simulated until halt by prurq using Quick_Sim. Rocq-decided by @mxdys.1RB3RA2LB1LB1RB_2LA2RA4LA1LA---(bbch). Dekaheptoid - Unverified nonhalting proof by @dyuan. Rocq-decided by @mxdys.1RB3RB1LB---2RB_2LA1RA4LB2LA2RA(bbch). Dekaheptoid - Unverified nonhalting proof by @dyuan. Rocq-decided by @mxdys.
1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA0RA---0RA1LA(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys. Longitudinal analysis by Legion implies nonhalting1RB2RA3LA4RB---_2LA3RB3RA1LB3LB(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys. s ~ 6.9 x 10933, halter ranked 3rd. Halting argument by @dyuan1RB3LA4RB0RB2LA_1LB2LA3LA1RA---(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys. Current champion s ~ 10^^4.811RB3RA4LB2RA2RB_2LA---3LA0LB1LA(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys.1RB3RB---0RA2RB_2LA4RA3LB1LB1LA(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys.1RB0LB2LA4LB3LA_2LA---3RA4RB2RB(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys1RB2LA0LB1LA2RA_0LA3RA1RA4LB---(bbch). Nonhalting argument by Peacemaker II. Confirmed in Rocq by @mxdys.1RB2LA1RA---1LA_1LA4RB3LB0RB2RB(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys1RB2LA3LA4RA0LA_1LA3RB1RB1LB---(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys1RB2LA0RB1LB0LB_1LA3RA1RA4RA---(bbch). Non-halting found by Andrew Ducharme. Confirmed in Rocq by @mxdys. Grandchild of1RB2LA0RB1LB_1LA3RA1RA---(bbch).1RB2RB---0LB3LA_2LA2LB3RB4RB1LB(bbch). Chaotic via long. analysis. Analysis of permutation by mxdys. Non-halting found by Andrew Ducharme. Confirmed in Rocq by @mxdys.1RB3LA1RA4LA2RA_2LA---1LA0RA3RB(bbch). Chaotic via long. analysis. More analysis by mxdys. High-level behaviour by Peacemaker II. Non-halting found by Peacemaker II. Confirmed in Rocq by @mxdys.1RB3LA1LA4LA2RA_2LB2RA---0RA0RB(bbch). - Notes by @mxdys. Translated cycler via @mxdys.1RB4LA1LB2LA0RB_2LB3RB4LA---1RA(bbch). Nonhalting argument by @dyuan. Confirmed in Rocq by @mxdys.1RB1RB3LA4LA2RA_2LB3RA---3RA4RB(bbch). BMO problem 3 by @dyuan. Confirmed in Lean by @mammillaria using Aristotle AI, translated to Rocq by @mxdys using other LLM.1RB0RB3LA4LA2RA_2LB3RA---3RA4RB(bbch). BMO problem 3 by @dyuan. Confirmed in Lean by @mammillaria using Aristotle AI, translated to Rocq by @mxdys using other LLM.1RB0RA3LA4LA2RA_2LB3LA---4RA3RB(bbch). BMO problem 3 variant - Nonhalting argument by @dyuan, translated to Rocq by @mxdys using an LLM.1RB2LB---4LB0RB_1LA3RB4RB4RA1LB(bbch). Nonhalting argument by @racheline. FAR solution by Andrew Ducharme, Rocq by mxdys.