BB(2,5): Difference between revisions
→Top Halters: it's clearly not a top 20 list yet |
RobinCodes (talk | contribs) Added information about every TM from Peacemaker II's google sheet except for the 17 untouched machines. Reordered all TM lists by category (i.e. potential cryptid, or unkown, etc.). Added math formulas wherever possible. |
||
| (7 intermediate revisions by 2 users not shown) | |||
| Line 9: | Line 9: | ||
* {{TM|1RB3RB---3LA1RA_2LA3RA4LB0LB0LA}}, known as [[Hydra]] | * {{TM|1RB3RB---3LA1RA_2LA3RA4LB0LB0LA}}, known as [[Hydra]] | ||
* {{TM|1RB3RB---3LA1RA_2LA3RA4LB0LB1LB}}, known as the Bonus Cryptid | * {{TM|1RB3RB---3LA1RA_2LA3RA4LB0LB1LB}}, known as the [[Bonus Cryptid]] | ||
Potential Cryptids: | Potential Cryptids: | ||
* {{TM|1RB---0RB0LA2RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0LB|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB---0RB0LA2RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0LB|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1354037062830919690/1354037062830919690 Shift overflow counter] | ||
* {{TM|1RB3LA1LA1RA3RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB3LA1LA1RA3RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB3LA1LA1RA1RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB3LA1LA1RA1RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB|undecided}}. | ||
| Line 35: | Line 35: | ||
In April 2024, Shawn Ligocki publicly released a list of 23,411 undecided BB(2,5) machines. Justin Blanchard then made substantial progress over the course of the next month, reducing the list to 499 [[Holdouts lists|holdouts]] by late May 2024. In June 2024, @mxdys cut down the list to 273 using halting and inductive deciders, and again to 217 using [[Closed Tape Language|CTL]]. In February 2025, @mxdys ran a decider pipeline in Rocq that resulted in only 173 holdouts. Since then, additional machines have been proven in Rocq using both deciders and individual proofs. | In April 2024, Shawn Ligocki publicly released a list of 23,411 undecided BB(2,5) machines. Justin Blanchard then made substantial progress over the course of the next month, reducing the list to 499 [[Holdouts lists|holdouts]] by late May 2024. In June 2024, @mxdys cut down the list to 273 using halting and inductive deciders, and again to 217 using [[Closed Tape Language|CTL]]. In February 2025, @mxdys ran a decider pipeline in Rocq that resulted in only 173 holdouts. Since then, additional machines have been proven in Rocq using both deciders and individual proofs. | ||
On [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1355593937531961365 29 Mar 2025], @mxdys published a list of 83 holdouts that withstood state-of-the-art Rocq deciders. | On [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1355593937531961365 29 Mar 2025], @mxdys published a list of 83 holdouts that withstood state-of-the-art Rocq deciders. | ||
Over the course of 5 months, @mxdys added 8 machines to Rocq<sup>[https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1355799763437752521 1][https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1355828077023854752 2][https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1379521528869421137 3][https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1379877629288644722 4][https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1411488532500971631 5]</sup>, lowering the certified holdout count to 75. There are 11 informal arguments, lowering the informal holdout count to 64. | |||
== Holdouts == | == Holdouts == | ||
This section is based on @mxdys | This section is based on the list of 83 holdouts published by @mxdys, and includes further progress as of 25 October 2025. | ||
=== Cryptids === | === Cryptids === | ||
| Line 47: | Line 49: | ||
=== Unsolved === | === Unsolved === | ||
* {{TM|1RB---4LB0LA4RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0RB|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB---4LB0LA4RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0RB|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB3LA1LA4LA2RA_2LB2RA---0RA0RB|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB3LA1LA4LA2RA_2LB2RA---0RA0RB|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB4RA1LA4RB2LA_2LB3LA1RB2RA---|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB4RA1LA4RB2LA_2LB3LA1RB2RA---|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB---3RA2LA2RB_2LB3LA4LB4RA0RA|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB---3RA2LA2RB_2LB3LA4LB4RA0RA|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB2RB3LA4LA1LA_2LB3RA---4RA1RB|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB2RB3LA4LA1LA_2LB3RA---4RA1RB|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB3RB3LA4LA2RB_2LB3RA---1RA1LA|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB3RB3LA4LA2RB_2LB3RA---1RA1LA|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA4LA1RA1LA_2LB3RB4RB---2RA|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB2LA4LA1RA1LA_2LB3RB4RB---2RA|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB4RB4RA1LA3LA_1LB2LA3RB2RB---|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB4RB4RA1LA3LA_1LB2LA3RB2RB---|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB2RA4LA1RB4RB_1LB2LA3RA---0LB|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB2RA4LA1RB4RB_1LB2LA3RA---0LB|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB3RB1LA2LA3RA_1LB2RA4RB0LA---|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB3RB1LA2LA3RA_1LB2RA4RB0LA---|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM| | * {{TM|1RB3LA3LB0RB0LA_2LA4RB1LB1RA---|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM| | * {{TM|1RB3LA1LA2RB2RA_2LA4RA3LB1RA---|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB3RB---4RA2RA_2LA2RA3LB4LB1LB|undecided}}. | |||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LA3LB_1LA3LB1RA4RA---|undecided}}. | |||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB4LB1RA_1LA3RA1RA---0LA|undecided}}. | |||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB4LB0LA_1LA3LA1RA4RA---|undecided}}. | |||
* {{TM|1RB---3LB4RB0LA_2LB3LA3RB4RA0RA|undecided}}. | |||
* {{TM|1RB3LB---4LA1RB_2LA4LA4LB3RB1RA|undecided}}. Potential Cryptid - [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1375584513777995957 Analysis by @mxdys] | |||
* {{TM|1RB3LA1LA1RA3RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB|undecided}}. Potential Cryptid | |||
* {{TM|1RB3LA1LA1RA1RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB|undecided}}. Potential Cryptid | |||
* {{TM|1RB---0RB0LA2RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0LB|undecided}}. Potential Cryptid - [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1354037062830919690/1354037062830919690 Shift overflow counter] | |||
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LB---2LB_2LA0LA4RB0RB1LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1329808777754706046 30% chance of beating current champion] | * {{TM|1RB2RA3LB---2LB_2LA0LA4RB0RB1LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1329808777754706046 30% chance of beating current champion] | ||
* {{TM|1RB3LA1LA2RB2LB_1LB2RA4RA0RB---|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1395820706050080869/1395820706050080869 Block analysis by @dyuan by "impurity score"] | |||
* {{TM|1RB---4LB1RA4RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0RB|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1378248683161653289 Analysis by Andrew Ducharme and @mxdys] | |||
* {{TM|1RB---4RB2RB4LA_2LB3LA3LB0RA0RB|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1353983911222312970/1353983911222312970 Bouncer + chaotic counter] | |||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB0LB3LB_2LA4RB3RA0RA---|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1395872756268269668/1395872756268269668 Analysis by Peacemaker II] | |||
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LB4LA---_2LA0RB1LA2RB0RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1348878717870673981 Analysis by @dyuan01 and @Legion] | * {{TM|1RB2RA3LB4LA---_2LA0RB1LA2RB0RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1348878717870673981 Analysis by @dyuan01 and @Legion] | ||
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA---2LB_2LA4RA4RB0RB0LA|undecided}}. Spaghetti [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1344221797020602398/1344221797020602398 analysis by @nerdyjoe] | * {{TM|1RB2RA3LA---2LB_2LA4RA4RB0RB0LA|undecided}}. Spaghetti, [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1344221797020602398/1344221797020602398 analysis by @nerdyjoe] | ||
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA---3LB1RA3RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1353983911222312970/1355112650690003028 Bouncer + chaotic counter] | * {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA---3LB1RA3RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1353983911222312970/1355112650690003028 Bouncer + chaotic counter] | ||
* {{TM|1RB3LA3LA0RB2LB_2LA4LA4RA2RA---|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1376383949575557161 Analysis by @mxdys] | * {{TM|1RB3LA3LA0RB2LB_2LA4LA4RA2RA---|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1376383949575557161 Analysis by @mxdys] | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LB3LA0RA1LB_2LA4RA3RB3LA---|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1344221797020602398/1344221797020602398 Analysis by @nerdyjoe] | * {{TM|1RB2LB3LA0RA1LB_2LA4RA3RB3LA---|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1344221797020602398/1344221797020602398 Analysis by @nerdyjoe] | ||
* {{TM|1RB3LB0RB---2LB_2LA3RA4RB2RB0LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1376577295938097253 Analysis by @mxdys] | * {{TM|1RB3LB0RB---2LB_2LA3RA4RB2RB0LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1376577295938097253 Analysis by @mxdys] | ||
* {{TM|1RB3LB4LA0LB---_2LA0LA1RB0RA3RA|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB3LB4LA0LB---_2LA0LA1RB0RA3RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1395872756268269668/1395872756268269668 Analysis by Peacemaker II] | ||
* {{TM| | * {{TM|1RB3RB1LB2RA---_2LA2RB1LA4LB0RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1397318518961082398 Analysis by Legion and @dyuan] | ||
* {{TM| | * {{TM|1RB2LA0RB---4LA_1LA3LA1RA4RA1LB|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1329629220795715674 Analysis by @racheline] | ||
* {{TM| | * {{TM|1RB4LA1RA1RB1LA_2LB3LA---4RA2RB|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1359561443929886760 Basic long. analysis by @dyuan] | ||
* {{TM| | * {{TM|1RB3RA3RB4LA1LA_1LB2LA1LA---1RB|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1349602897024782358 Long. analysis by @dyuan suggests chaotic, potentially halt] | ||
* {{TM| | * {{TM|1RB3LA1RA4LA2RA_2LA---1LA0RA3RB|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1378560417235734558 More analysis by mxdys] | ||
* {{TM| | * {{TM|1RB2RB4LA2RA1LA_2LA4RA3LA---3RA|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1353983911222312970/1353987502062702622 Probviously nonhalting] | ||
* {{TM| | * {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA3RA---0RA1LA|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis | ||
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA3RB---0RA1LA|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis | |||
* {{TM|1RB2RB---0LB3LA_2LA2LB3RB4RB1LB|undecided}}. Chaotic via long. analysis | |||
* {{TM|1RB2LA4RA1LA3LA_0LA2RB3RB2LB---|undecided}}. 1D CA-like. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1354107790330691655 Analysis by @dyuan and @mxdys] | * {{TM|1RB2LA4RA1LA3LA_0LA2RB3RB2LB---|undecided}}. 1D CA-like. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1354107790330691655 Analysis by @dyuan and @mxdys] | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA4RA1LA3LA_0LA3RB3LB2RB---|undecided}}. 1D CA-like | * {{TM|1RB2LA4RA1LA3LA_0LA3RB3LB2RB---|undecided}}. 1D CA-like | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA1LA4RA2LA_0LA3RB3LB2RB---|undecided}}. 1D CA-like | * {{TM|1RB2LA1LA4RA2LA_0LA3RB3LB2RB---|undecided}}. 1D CA-like | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA3LA4RA1LA_0LA3LB3RB1RB---|undecided}}. 1D CA-like | * {{TM|1RB2LA3LA4RA1LA_0LA3LB3RB1RB---|undecided}}. 1D CA-like | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA3LB4LB---_0LA4LB3RA4LA0RB|undecided}}. Fractal? | * {{TM|1RB2LA3LB4LB---_0LA4LB3RA4LA0RB|undecided}}. Fractal? | ||
The 15 grandchildren of {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB_1LA3RA1RA---|undecided}} | The 15 grandchildren of {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB_1LA3RA1RA---|undecided}} | ||
| Line 102: | Line 103: | ||
which includes the family 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB---. See [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1336734852308799579 this thread] for more details. | which includes the family 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB---. See [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1336734852308799579 this thread] for more details. | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2RB|undecided}}. Simulated for ~ | * {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2RB|undecided}}. Simulated for <math>~9*10^{1167}</math> steps by @hipparcos, [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1336734852308799579/1352407027804143726 hasn't halted yet] | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2LB|undecided}}. Simulated for ~1. | * {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2LB|undecided}}. Simulated for <math>~1.3*10^{1094}</math> steps by @hipparcos, [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1336734852308799579/1352407027804143726 hasn't halted yet] | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1RB|undecided}}. Simulated for ~9. | * {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1RB|undecided}}. Simulated for <math>~9.8*10^{1226}</math> steps by @hipparcos, [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1336734852308799579/1352407027804143726 hasn't halted yet] | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1LB|undecided}}. Simulated for ~3. | * {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1LB|undecided}}. Simulated for <math>~3*10^{1140}</math> steps by @hipparcos, [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1336734852308799579/1352407027804143726 hasn't halted yet] | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0LB|undecided}}. Simulated for <math>~2.6*10^{889}</math> steps by @hipparcos, [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1336734852308799579/1352407027804143726 hasn't halted yet] | |||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0RB|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0RB|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB3RA|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB3RA|undecided}}. | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2RA|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2RA|undecided}}. | ||
| Line 118: | Line 119: | ||
=== Solved with moderate rigor === | === Solved with moderate rigor === | ||
* {{TM|1RB1RB3LA4LA2RA_2LB3RA---3RA4RB|undecided}}. | * {{TM|1RB1RB3LA4LA2RA_2LB3RA---3RA4RB|undecided}}. [[Beaver Math Olympiad#3. 1RB0RB3LA4LA2RA 2LB3RA---3RA4RB (bbch) and 1RB1RB3LA4LA2RA 2LB3RA---3RA4RB (bbch)|BMO problem 3]] by @dyuan | ||
* {{TM|1RB0RB3LA4LA2RA_2LB3RA---3RA4RB|undecided}}. BMO problem 3 by @dyuan | |||
* {{TM| | |||
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA---1LA1RA3RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1084047886494470185/1254518334406266964 Longitudinal analysis by @Legion implies halting] | * {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA---1LA1RA3RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1084047886494470185/1254518334406266964 Longitudinal analysis by @Legion implies halting] | ||
* {{TM|1RB3LA4LA1LA2RA_2LA4RB---0RA0LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1084047886494470185/1254518334406266964 Longitudinal analysis by @Legion implies halting] | * {{TM|1RB3LA4LA1LA2RA_2LA4RB---0RA0LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1084047886494470185/1254518334406266964 Longitudinal analysis by @Legion implies halting] | ||
* {{TM|1RB3LA4LA2RB1LA_2LA4RB---3RA3LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1084047886494470185/1254518334406266964 Longitudinal analysis by @Legion implies halting] | * {{TM|1RB3LA4LA2RB1LA_2LA4RB---3RA3LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1084047886494470185/1254518334406266964 Longitudinal analysis by @Legion implies halting] | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LB---4LB0RB_1LA3RB4RB4RA1LB|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1329663999700111471 Nonhalting argument by @racheline] | * {{TM|1RB2LB---4LB0RB_1LA3RB4RB4RA1LB|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1329663999700111471 Nonhalting argument by @racheline] | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA0LB1LA2RA_0LA3RA1RA4LB---|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1428501877947109437 Nonhalting argument by Peacemaker II] | |||
* {{TM|1RB4LA1LB2LA0RB_2LB3RB4LA---1RA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1290449717536489622 Nonhalting argument by @dyuan] | |||
* {{TM|1RB3RA2LB1LB1RB_2LA2RA4LA1LA---|undecided}}. [[Dekaheptoid]], - [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1267650177389432913 Unverified nonhalting proof by @dyuan] | |||
* {{TM|1RB3RB1LB---2RB_2LA1RA4LB2LA2RA|undecided}}. [[Dekaheptoid]], - [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1267650177389432913 Unverified nonhalting proof by @dyuan] | |||
* {{TM|1RB0RA3LA4LA2RA_2LB3LA---4RA3RB|undecided}}. BMO problem 3 variant - [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1415337575543214132 Nonhalting argument by @dyuan] | |||
=== Formally proven === | === Formally proven === | ||
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA0RA---0RA1LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1355828077023854752 Rocq-decided by @mxdys]. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1355714495326060706 Longitudinal analysis by Legion implies nonhalting] | |||
* {{TM|1RB2RA3LA4RB---_2LA3RB3RA1LB3LB|halt}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1379877629288644722 Rocq-decided by @mxdys]. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1373347187836194898 Halting argument by @dyuan] | |||
* {{TM|1RB3LA4RB0RB2LA_1LB2LA3LA1RA---|halt}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1379877629288644722 Rocq-decided by @mxdys]. Current champion | |||
* {{TM|1RB3RA4LB2RA2RB_2LA---3LA0LB1LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1411488532500971631 Rocq-decided by @mxdys.] | * {{TM|1RB3RA4LB2RA2RB_2LA---3LA0LB1LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1411488532500971631 Rocq-decided by @mxdys.] | ||
* {{TM|1RB3RB---0RA2RB_2LA4RA3LB1LB1LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1411488532500971631 Rocq-decided by @mxdys.] | * {{TM|1RB3RB---0RA2RB_2LA4RA3LB1LB1LA|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1411488532500971631 Rocq-decided by @mxdys.] | ||
* {{TM|1RB0LB2LA4LB3LA_2LA---3RA4RB2RB|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1375251026411786310/1375556785603084469 Rocq-decided by @mxdys] | * {{TM|1RB0LB2LA4LB3LA_2LA---3RA4RB2RB|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1375251026411786310/1375556785603084469 Rocq-decided by @mxdys] | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA1RA---1LA_1LA4RB3LB0RB2RB|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1375251026411786310/1375556785603084469 Rocq-decided by @mxdys] | * {{TM|1RB2LA1RA---1LA_1LA4RB3LB0RB2RB|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1375251026411786310/1375556785603084469 Rocq-decided by @mxdys] | ||
* {{TM|1RB2LA3LA4RA0LA_1LA3RB1RB1LB---|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1379521528869421137 Rocq-decided by @mxdys] | * {{TM|1RB2LA3LA4RA0LA_1LA3RB1RB1LB---|undecided}}. [https://discord.com/channels/960643023006490684/1259770421046411285/1379521528869421137 Rocq-decided by @mxdys] | ||
[[Category:BB Domains]][[Category:BB(2,5)]] | [[Category:BB Domains]][[Category:BB(2,5)]] | ||
Latest revision as of 20:16, 26 October 2025
The 2-state, 5-symbol Busy Beaver problem, BB(2,5), is unsolved. With the discovery of the Cryptid machine Hydra in April 2024, we now know that we must solve a Collatz-like problem in order to solve BB(2,5) and thus BB(2,5) is Hard.
The current BB(2,5) champion 1RB3LA4RB0RB2LA_1LB2LA3LA1RA1RZ (bbch) was discovered by Daniel Yuan in June 2024, proving the lower bounds:
Cryptids
Known Cryptids:
1RB3RB---3LA1RA_2LA3RA4LB0LB0LA(bbch), known as Hydra1RB3RB---3LA1RA_2LA3RA4LB0LB1LB(bbch), known as the Bonus Cryptid
Potential Cryptids:
1RB---0RB0LA2RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0LB(bbch). Shift overflow counter1RB3LA1LA1RA3RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB(bbch).1RB3LA1LA1RA1RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB(bbch).1RB3LB---4LA1RB_2LA4LA4LB3RB1RA(bbch). Analysis by @mxdys
Top Halters
Some of the longest running halting BB(2,5) TMs are:
| Standard format | (approximate) runtime |
|---|---|
1RB3LA4RB0RB2LA_1LB2LA3LA1RA1RZ (bbch)
|
|
1RB2LB4LB3LA1RZ_1LA3RA3LB0LB0RA (bbch)
|
Certified progress
In April 2024, Shawn Ligocki publicly released a list of 23,411 undecided BB(2,5) machines. Justin Blanchard then made substantial progress over the course of the next month, reducing the list to 499 holdouts by late May 2024. In June 2024, @mxdys cut down the list to 273 using halting and inductive deciders, and again to 217 using CTL. In February 2025, @mxdys ran a decider pipeline in Rocq that resulted in only 173 holdouts. Since then, additional machines have been proven in Rocq using both deciders and individual proofs.
On 29 Mar 2025, @mxdys published a list of 83 holdouts that withstood state-of-the-art Rocq deciders.
Over the course of 5 months, @mxdys added 8 machines to Rocq12345, lowering the certified holdout count to 75. There are 11 informal arguments, lowering the informal holdout count to 64.
Holdouts
This section is based on the list of 83 holdouts published by @mxdys, and includes further progress as of 25 October 2025.
Cryptids
1RB3RB---3LA1RA_2LA3RA4LB0LB0LA(bbch). Hydra1RB3RB---3LA1RA_2LA3RA4LB0LB1LB(bbch). Bonus Cryptid
Unsolved
1RB---4LB0LA4RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0RB(bbch).1RB3LA1LA4LA2RA_2LB2RA---0RA0RB(bbch).1RB4RA1LA4RB2LA_2LB3LA1RB2RA---(bbch).1RB---3RA2LA2RB_2LB3LA4LB4RA0RA(bbch).1RB2RB3LA4LA1LA_2LB3RA---4RA1RB(bbch).1RB3RB3LA4LA2RB_2LB3RA---1RA1LA(bbch).1RB2LA4LA1RA1LA_2LB3RB4RB---2RA(bbch).1RB4RB4RA1LA3LA_1LB2LA3RB2RB---(bbch).1RB2RA4LA1RB4RB_1LB2LA3RA---0LB(bbch).1RB3RB1LA2LA3RA_1LB2RA4RB0LA---(bbch).1RB3LA3LB0RB0LA_2LA4RB1LB1RA---(bbch).1RB3LA1LA2RB2RA_2LA4RA3LB1RA---(bbch).1RB3RB---4RA2RA_2LA2RA3LB4LB1LB(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LA3LB_1LA3LB1RA4RA---(bbch).1RB2LA0RB4LB1RA_1LA3RA1RA---0LA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB4LB0LA_1LA3LA1RA4RA---(bbch).1RB---3LB4RB0LA_2LB3LA3RB4RA0RA(bbch).1RB3LB---4LA1RB_2LA4LA4LB3RB1RA(bbch). Potential Cryptid - Analysis by @mxdys1RB3LA1LA1RA3RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB(bbch). Potential Cryptid1RB3LA1LA1RA1RA_2LB2RA---4RB1LB(bbch). Potential Cryptid1RB---0RB0LA2RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0LB(bbch). Potential Cryptid - Shift overflow counter1RB2RA3LB---2LB_2LA0LA4RB0RB1LA(bbch). 30% chance of beating current champion1RB3LA1LA2RB2LB_1LB2RA4RA0RB---(bbch). Block analysis by @dyuan by "impurity score"1RB---4LB1RA4RA_2LB2LA3RA4LB0RB(bbch). Analysis by Andrew Ducharme and @mxdys1RB---4RB2RB4LA_2LB3LA3LB0RA0RB(bbch). Bouncer + chaotic counter1RB2LA0RB0LB3LB_2LA4RB3RA0RA---(bbch). Analysis by Peacemaker II1RB2RA3LB4LA---_2LA0RB1LA2RB0RA(bbch). Analysis by @dyuan01 and @Legion1RB2RA3LA---2LB_2LA4RA4RB0RB0LA(bbch). Spaghetti, analysis by @nerdyjoe1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA---3LB1RA3RA(bbch). Bouncer + chaotic counter1RB3LA3LA0RB2LB_2LA4LA4RA2RA---(bbch). Analysis by @mxdys1RB2LB3LA0RA1LB_2LA4RA3RB3LA---(bbch). Analysis by @nerdyjoe1RB3LB0RB---2LB_2LA3RA4RB2RB0LA(bbch). Analysis by @mxdys1RB3LB4LA0LB---_2LA0LA1RB0RA3RA(bbch). Analysis by Peacemaker II1RB3RB1LB2RA---_2LA2RB1LA4LB0RA(bbch). Analysis by Legion and @dyuan1RB2LA0RB---4LA_1LA3LA1RA4RA1LB(bbch). Analysis by @racheline1RB4LA1RA1RB1LA_2LB3LA---4RA2RB(bbch). Basic long. analysis by @dyuan1RB3RA3RB4LA1LA_1LB2LA1LA---1RB(bbch). Long. analysis by @dyuan suggests chaotic, potentially halt1RB3LA1RA4LA2RA_2LA---1LA0RA3RB(bbch). Chaotic via long. analysis. More analysis by mxdys1RB2RB4LA2RA1LA_2LA4RA3LA---3RA(bbch). Chaotic via long. analysis. Probviously nonhalting1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA3RA---0RA1LA(bbch). Chaotic via long. analysis1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA3RB---0RA1LA(bbch). Chaotic via long. analysis1RB2RB---0LB3LA_2LA2LB3RB4RB1LB(bbch). Chaotic via long. analysis1RB2LA4RA1LA3LA_0LA2RB3RB2LB---(bbch). 1D CA-like. Analysis by @dyuan and @mxdys1RB2LA4RA1LA3LA_0LA3RB3LB2RB---(bbch). 1D CA-like1RB2LA1LA4RA2LA_0LA3RB3LB2RB---(bbch). 1D CA-like1RB2LA3LA4RA1LA_0LA3LB3RB1RB---(bbch). 1D CA-like1RB2LA3LB4LB---_0LA4LB3RA4LA0RB(bbch). Fractal?
The 15 grandchildren of 1RB2LA0RB1LB_1LA3RA1RA--- (bbch)
which includes the family 1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB---. See this thread for more details.
1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2RB(bbch). Simulated for steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2LB(bbch). Simulated for steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1RB(bbch). Simulated for steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1LB(bbch). Simulated for steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0LB(bbch). Simulated for steps by @hipparcos, hasn't halted yet1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0RB(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB3RA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2RA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB2LA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1RA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB1LA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0RA(bbch).1RB2LA0RB1LB---_1LA3RA1RA4LB0LA(bbch).
Solved with moderate rigor
1RB1RB3LA4LA2RA_2LB3RA---3RA4RB(bbch). BMO problem 3 by @dyuan1RB0RB3LA4LA2RA_2LB3RA---3RA4RB(bbch). BMO problem 3 by @dyuan1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA---1LA1RA3RA(bbch). Longitudinal analysis by @Legion implies halting1RB3LA4LA1LA2RA_2LA4RB---0RA0LA(bbch). Longitudinal analysis by @Legion implies halting1RB3LA4LA2RB1LA_2LA4RB---3RA3LA(bbch). Longitudinal analysis by @Legion implies halting1RB2LB---4LB0RB_1LA3RB4RB4RA1LB(bbch). Nonhalting argument by @racheline1RB2LA0LB1LA2RA_0LA3RA1RA4LB---(bbch). Nonhalting argument by Peacemaker II1RB4LA1LB2LA0RB_2LB3RB4LA---1RA(bbch). Nonhalting argument by @dyuan1RB3RA2LB1LB1RB_2LA2RA4LA1LA---(bbch). Dekaheptoid, - Unverified nonhalting proof by @dyuan1RB3RB1LB---2RB_2LA1RA4LB2LA2RA(bbch). Dekaheptoid, - Unverified nonhalting proof by @dyuan1RB0RA3LA4LA2RA_2LB3LA---4RA3RB(bbch). BMO problem 3 variant - Nonhalting argument by @dyuan
Formally proven
1RB2RA3LA4LA2RB_2LA0RA---0RA1LA(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys. Longitudinal analysis by Legion implies nonhalting1RB2RA3LA4RB---_2LA3RB3RA1LB3LB(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys. Halting argument by @dyuan1RB3LA4RB0RB2LA_1LB2LA3LA1RA---(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys. Current champion1RB3RA4LB2RA2RB_2LA---3LA0LB1LA(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys.1RB3RB---0RA2RB_2LA4RA3LB1LB1LA(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys.1RB0LB2LA4LB3LA_2LA---3RA4RB2RB(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys1RB2LA1RA---1LA_1LA4RB3LB0RB2RB(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys1RB2LA3LA4RA0LA_1LA3RB1RB1LB---(bbch). Rocq-decided by @mxdys